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Posted - 2012.03.26 05:55:00 -
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I would like to call for the resignation of GÇ£The MittaniGÇ¥ in regards to his complete misconduct during the Fanfest 2012 Alliance Panel. Per CSM Representative Conduct article of the Council of Stellar Management, all active CSMs are bound to abide by EULA and TOS and are subject to immediate dismissal and permanent exclusion regardless of infraction. As the representative of the best of the EVE players, more stringent stance is given as they are GÇ£expected to uphold the social contract that all society members are held accountable to, but should also set a behavior standard for everyone else to follow.GÇ¥
For those who are unfamiliar with The MittaniGÇÖs misconduct, please refer to the link where he knowingly encouraged thousands of potential Fanfest viewers to send mails to an EVE player who has exhibited a history of mental instability, to provoke him to commit suicide.
CSMs are elected to exhibit the best of their behaviors, may it be in drinking, partying, or playing, EVE, but knowingly encouraging other players to take part in a possible suicide of a player in front of thousands of EVE and non-EVE audiences crosses boundaries.
When asked to answer for his misconduct, he only gave a nonchalant answer. He should have been begging on his knees, apologizing for his childish behavior.
For the future of the CSM, please consider his resignation. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 06:02:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:-1
Stop whining. He acted fine
Are you kidding me? Encouraging other players to partake in a possible suicide of a mentally unstable person is "acting fine?"
Its a joke. I know. But it has gone too far. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 06:07:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:-1
Stop whining. He acted fine Are you kidding me? Encouraging other players to partake in a possible suicide of a mentally unstable person is "acting fine?" Its a joke. I know. But it has gone too far. Anybody who threatens to commit suicide over a video game deserves to be mocked.
it doesn't matter if I am an alt or CEO of Pendamic Legion. I am expressing my concern as a valid subscriber of this game. I pay plex for this game. You pay plex for this game. An alt or a nobody i may be, but i am entitled with same right as others. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 06:13:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~
Oh my humble apologies for tarnishing your great reputation, Mittani the Great. I just hope that you think twice before asking thousands of other players to partake in an act to provoke a mentally unstable person to commit suicide. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 06:14:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Also,
Likes received: 0
You see? this is always a joke for you. We are not playing a "like" contest here, but to question the Mittani's ability to lead CSM in a most respectable manner. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 06:18:00 -
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Kerensky White wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:-1
Stop whining. He acted fine Are you kidding me? Encouraging other players to partake in a possible suicide of a mentally unstable person is "acting fine?" Its a joke. I know. But it has gone too far. Anybody who threatens to commit suicide over a video game deserves to be mocked. it doesn't matter if I am an alt or CEO of Pendamic Legion. I am expressing my concern as a valid subscriber of this game. I pay plex for this game. You pay plex for this game. An alt or a nobody i may be, but i am entitled with same right as others. And we're entitled to use our payment to mock you for being dumb.
It's most likely that if a no name player like me incites thousands of players in EVE Online to provoke a mentally unstable person to commit suicide, I will be banned by CCP without question.
But since it's Mittani the Great, I suppose he's excused? What kind of bullshit logic is this? |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:51:00 -
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Karadion wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Karadion wrote:stoicfaux wrote:For crying out loud. If you really want to put pressure on CCP, then encourage 3rd party news/games sites need to pick up the 'controversy'. If you're in the US, then you can try writing your senator/congressman and see if you can't piggy back on the anti-online-bullying story. Contacting a cyber-bulling organization such as http://www.stopcyberbullying.org might work as well. The only way you're going to get CCP to act on the supposed cyberbullying is to bully CCP into acting with the threat of bad PR. Those laws are aimed at protecting children under age of majority. The Wis is some dumb pubbie who had 22 accounts and he only played Eve Online as an escape because he got divorced (Hint, he probably got divorced for something really obvious). So are you saying we need cyberbullying proposals aimed at protecting manchilds? If the guy offs himself, it's not ourfucking problem. Suicide as a bargaining chip is a dumb dumb dumb tactic. /facepalm In case you haven't noticed, the US population and internet blogs/sites in general have been in a "don't let the truth get in the way of a good story" state for quite some time. Blogs and game sites need eyeballs and a scandal, whether true or blown out of proportion, is a great way to get hits/revenue. Most "real world" jerks know this and make damn sure to have a good spin doctor on staff and try to keep their asshattery out of the public eye. IMHO, Mittanti has potentially screwed the pooch with his off-the-cuff and flip responses to the accusations. If CCP does feel the need to "do something" then Mitt has already painted himself into a corner. A little diplomacy/spin doctoring/maturity would have gone a long way to nipping the whole incident in the bud. Now there's a good chance it could turn into a problem that CCP "must" address with "severe" consequences to show how "concerned" and "serious" they are about < insert social issue here />. The whole thing is just Stupid. Continuing to pour gas on a flaming ball of Stupid shows an amazing lack of political and diplomatic awareness. I'm not sure why you are defending a manchild who got divorced over his addiction to Eve Online through the usage of his 22 accounts. That idiot brought up that he might off himself. Mittani never solicited him to do it in the first place. You're acting that using suicide to get their way is a perfectly acceptable method when it's not. ALl I see here are crybabies looking for an excuse, anything, to get the goons banned from the game. I've scammed at least 80 miners during the mining interdiction and at least 4 of them have threatened to kill themselves if I don't give back their isk. It's not my damn problem that they are willing to try and use it as a bargaining chip. If anything, threatening suicide in this game should be an instant permaban.
The best thing the Mittani could have done, is to rob him of everything and leave him.
Inciting thousands of EVE/non-EVE players to send mails to encourage the unfortunate miner's suicidal tendency was not only immature and completely unnecessary, but sick. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 15:04:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Inciting thousands of EVE/non-EVE players to send mails to encourage the unfortunate miner's suicidal tendency was not only immature and completely unnecessary, but sick. Where did you get your psychology degree?
You don't need a psychology degree to come to that conclusion.
All you need is elementary level english skill and an ounce of morality.
Obviously you lack the latter. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 15:19:00 -
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Arkady Vachon wrote:Mittani's antics may have been in poor taste (and I voted for him)
but this is shaping up to be a witch hunt, and I would bet that a good deal of those instigating it don't really give a damn about this guy who is threatening suicide as a means of guilt tripping as much as they give a damn about dethroning Mittani and/or getting the goons banned.
Besides, if CCP boots Mittani, just how many players are going to leave with him?
My hope is that those with some moral decency will fill in the missing spots that morally deprived goons will cause.
If CCP does not punish Mittani the Great, EVE Online would be a laughing stock amongst other major game publishers. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 15:30:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote: If CCP does not punish Mittani the Great, EVE Online would be a laughing stock amongst other major game publishers.
Actually if they listen to a bunch of NPC corp alts they would be a laughing stock amongst other major game publishers.
The Mittani is a fantastic player. He is charismatic. He is smart (was?). He is (was) probably the top choice that CCP could've ever hoped for. He speaks with eloquence and he definitely knows how to command a crowd.
But hey, **** hit the fan when he decided to incite thousands of others to further encourage an unfortunate player's suicidal tendency.
Completely unacceptable. We are not trying to bring shame to the Goons. We are trying to correct Mittani the Great's individual mistake and an irreparable harm that he has caused to EVE's image amongst other major games.
Don't worry! Goons will prevail under a better leadership! |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 15:53:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:1. Does anybody know this person who is supposedly "Suicidal" in real life
2. If you can not answer yes to question one then you can not comment on the mental condition of this person and whether they are genuinely or not.
For all we know this person is not Suicidal in any way shape or form and just over reacted to losing some pixels in a internet space game.
If somebody does know this person in real life and if they are genuinely Suicidal then what the hell are you doing letting somebody with that mind set play a game like Eve to begin with?
Also if it had been any other person who had said this then we wouldn't of had so many people trying to act as a Knight in Shining Armour trying to pretend they give a **** about this person.
The truth of the matter is that most people posting here against the The Mittani (and the goons as a whole) are just people who have been butt hurt in a internet space ship game and are trying to get what ever revenge then can against them because they have no other way.
You don't give a **** about the person in question, you just see this as your only way of trying to get at the goons.
What's worse, a person who openly mocks somebody with Suicidal thoughts because they lost some pixels in a internet space game or the person who pretends he cares about said person and just wants to exact some kind of revenge because they were butt hurt.
Your point is null. Listen to the Alliance Panel and the former CSM presentation again. Mittani the Great said he is "mentally unstable." He knowingly and purposely asked thousands of players to send him mails to encourage his suicidal tendency.
It doesn't matter if he is mentally unstable or the brightest mind in the galaxy. The fact that CSM Chairman, who was supposedely elected to represent the best of EVE, inciting others to provoke this unfortunate player to commit suicide, while admitting that he is mentally unstable, is COMPLETELY DETESTABLE. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 16:17:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:http://www.develop-online.net/news/40316/CCP-investigation-into-suicidal-player-jokes
Wildfire. This things got legs. Because the same unsubstantiated story has appeared on two websites nobody has ever heard of? lol
Goons will prevail under better leadership. Win-win scenario for all of us. Ladie Harlot, it's not too late to carry on his mantle.
Oh and trust me. You don't need any college degree to lead Goons. I humbly ask you though... that this time, at least have some moral decency. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 16:27:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:Wow, I tried to read all the posts before posting, but everytime i got to the bottom of the page, a new page was added... damn..
Anyways, from the start, I assumed this was a made up story. I assumed this because the narrative of it seems to tell what the goons are about. If someone had threatened suicide and no suicide note is found with "MITTENS MADE ME DOEET @ FANFEST!!!!!" then it was a lie and it was a troll. You all been trolled.
On the other hand, if someone did killed himself because of the mittani, there'd be legal implications because of the recent bullying case where the verdict was guilty. And proof is all over the internet and on his DA's computer.
TL;DR: Until a sucide note with "The Mittani made me do it" is found, you all have been trolled.... HARD!
Please read the transcript of the former CSM panel during the Fanfest 2012 and watch the video of the Alliance Panel Presentation. I do not fabricate stories. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 16:32:00 -
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Tommy Laughingface wrote:But where is the proof of this? If there is no proof, then this is some kind of heresy....
Please read the transcript of the former CSM panel during the Fanfest 2012 and watch the video of the Alliance Panel Presentation. I do not fabricate stories. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 16:43:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Selinate wrote:FYI, if you REALLY want to get CCP off their asses, you'll stage an unsub protest instead of this "call for resignation"..
That way, your vote with your wallet will encourage CCP to not allow any of this type of behavior which is a *bit* too prevalent in Eve.... You aren't allowed to do that anymore. Trust me. I just checked, I'm pretty sure I'm still allowed to press the unsub button...
No no no. We do not want ANYONE to unsub their accounts. It only requires simple action from CCP: dismissing Mittani the Great from his unwarranted CSM Chairmanship.
No more red carpet treatment for Mittani the Great.
No more operating expenses spent on Mittani the Great's flight and longing expenses to Iceland.
Iceland deserves a better person to set on its soil. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 16:47:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:Ok...let me preface this by saying that I'm not a "NPC corp alt", but in fact a new player. Therefore, my opinion doesn't matter. However, I'm going to give it anyway:
1. Whether or not a player is "suicidal" is irrelevant.
2. The rules explicitly state that harassment is not permitted.
3. The Mittani publicly requested people to harass this player in an out-of-game forum (albeit one sanctioned by the game company).
This seems to me to be more like a Charles Manson-esque situation. He's suggesting that people should break the game rules. He's not actually breaking any rules himself, and whether or not people choose to harass this guy is their decision. From a purely logical standpoint, The Mittani has broken no rules.
The real argument here is whether or not having a CSM member suggest that players break game rules "for the lulz" is acceptable conduct. Well, that's subjective. There's no ruleset there. That's something for CCP to decide, not us (or since I'm a noob, I guess it's more for "you" to decide since none of you probably consider me to be part of your little e-Spaceship group).
Personally, I think he should at least apologize for requesting people break the rules by harassing this guy. However, I think removing him from the CSM panel would be a bit illogical as once again, he hasn't actually broken any rules.
What I would suggest is that CCP further codify CSM conduct, and CSM term limits may not be a bad idea. Again, my useless opinion but I'm tossing it out there.
Thank you for ignoring my noob pubbie wall-o-text. Did I use that "pubbie" expression right?
-Ami
As a subscriber of this great game, you have no lesser rights than those who have played more, but certainly vastly more than someone who brings negative media exposure to our EVE Online. You are on a equal footing relative to all others who subscribe this game. Your voice is equally valued. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 16:59:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:OP is just Butt Hurt that Mittens stomped our Riverini
UMADBRO?
Ummm.... no? I had tremendous respect for Mittani the Great until he decided to undone EVERYTHING he has accomplished in a single day.
He is eloquent and he definitely knows how to command crowds. He's probably the top pick for CCP as CSM Chair until he decided to incite thousands of others to provoke a known suicidal to commit suicide.
I do not hate Goons. Goons just needs a better leadership and Goons will prevail without him. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 17:34:00 -
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Frothgar wrote:Aldeskwatso wrote:If the CSM guy truly meant what he said it's clear he doesn't have any concept of a basic moral standard and he has ABSOLUTLY no place to represent anyone about anything. Maybe not even himself since you almost have to suffer from some mental or social disorder. No, it just means the sandbox concept works. If we only allowed only paragons of Chribbaesque credibility to do anything of note in game, it would be a really boring game. Its people being naughty that make the news, just like today. Its people being naughty that generate the buzz that brings people in. The day we can't mock people who take this game WAY too seriously, is the day the game dies.
You are absolutely right, except there are several moral boundaries that a reasonable and thinking man shouldn't cross.
Mittani the Great... unfortunately... he did. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 17:52:00 -
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Can we try to be civil here? Lets not fall lower than Mittani the Great. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:16:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote:Again, Anyone who makes a post asking to kick Mittani is just regurgitating rhetoric that they heard from another player or in another thread. they are asking for him to be kicked because they hear about how "bad, nasty and mean" Mittens is and take this as truth. They they, blindly and ignorantly, follow the pack so they fit in with everyone.
People who publicly claim to want to kill themselves are just crying for mommy and daddy to give them more hugs. Any one who is half way intelligent, and doesn't have their head in the clouds, knows this. Its why they tell people to "LOOK FOR SIGNS" of suicidal behavior because genuine suicidal people don't make their intentions public. Mittens just harped on this fact and apparently all the softies got mad.
ALL YOU HATAZ KILL YO'SELF <- Triple-6
/im going to post this in all the mittens threads for lulz
Once again, nope. I had tremendous respect for him and I deemed him to be the best candidate to lead CSM until this "scandal" happened.
What he did was completely unacceptable and bring our EVE Online to shame. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:19:00 -
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Lord Pestilence wrote:I personally posted on alt because i knew there would be attempts at swaying the discussion off topic towards who said it...not what was said.
Mittani should be held liable to his words. That he still finds this funny and only states: "deal with it!" as a reponse, just shows his true character more clearly.
I encourage everyone to petition this to CCP if you feel Mittani crossed the line in this matter.
At this point, it is most likely that CCP will ask Mittani the Great to resign.
Also, they will probably allow him to keep his accounts if he writes a long tearful letter explaining to the community about his lapse in judgment. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:36:00 -
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It is quite pleasing to know that there are fellow GOONS who are equally disgusted by Mittani the Great's misconduct.
Goons, we all know that Mittani was a great leader, but that's past now.
Find a new leadership who can better suit the community.
Goons will prevail under better leadership. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:46:00 -
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Heimdallofasgard wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:It is quite pleasing to know that there are fellow GOONS who are equally disgusted by Mittani the Great's misconduct.
Goons, we all know that Mittani was a great leader, but that's past now.
Find a new leadership who can better suit the community.
Goons will prevail under better leadership. hahahahaha, you ARE being sarcastic aren't you? silly pubbie
No of course not. I am just seeing floods of support from Mittani the Great's fellow Goon members who are only doing so out of loyalty.
When they look beyond the loyalty, they will see that he is a guy who is responsible for single-handily tarnishing our beloved EVE Online's reputation in a single day.
There are some Goons who see reasons and are actively expressing their disgusts. He was a great leader who eventually brought more harm than good. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:21:00 -
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Mittani the Great's supporters' only "defenses" for Mittani the Great:
"Who is your main?"
"Where did you get your psychology degree?"
"Suicidal people deserve to die. Better for the gene-pool."
"10,084"
"First and for most, who is your main, and what does he do?"
"STFU carebears"
"This is happening only because people hate Goons"
These excuses are getting pathetic and do not explain anything about Mittani's misconduct. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:31:00 -
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Xython wrote:Ok, so lets recap:
* Mittani gets in with the biggest Mandate in CSM history. (Deal with it.) * The pubbies **** themselves in impotant rage. The Meme about "Goons only voting for Mittani" won't work cause he has 4000 more votes than there are Goons in the game, so obviously the morons will need something else... * Some made up controversy about Mittani mocking some botting reject hits the airwaves * ... That'll work: "ZOMG GOONIES ARE BAD! BAD BAD BAD!!"
Protip: If you say "I'm going to kill myself," it means you're not going to kill yourself, you're trolling for attention. People who do commit suicide do not engage in bilateral communication immediately beforehand. Doing so is a sign of attention whoring, not suicide.
What we had is some fat afk botting pubbie running, what, 22 bots at once? And Goons announced they would kill him, and then killed him (which he didn't notice cause he was afk botting), which is a good thing -- because bots are literally killing EVE. Upon getting his ass gently placed upon his head like a hat by the Goons, he tried to rant and guilttrip them as best he could.
It's an open PVP sandbox game. Deal with it.
I can't wait to see the bitching that's going to come around the start of May when our victory lap starts. You pubbies are going to **** yourselves.
You still do not understand the crux of this scandal. I suggest that you read from page 1. |

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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:36:00 -
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Xython wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:You still do not understand the crux of this scandal. I suggest that you read from page 1. I understand it perfectly well, you pathetic sockpuppet idiot. Fat lazy pubbies are mad that Mittani got in again, with the BIGGEST MANDATE IN CSM HISTORY and will do anything, anything to try and deflect from that. I suggest you deal with it, but the carebear crowd has shown time and again that they just can't. But hey, remember: EVERYTHING BURNS.
Ummm.... no.
I suggest that you read from page 1. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:12:00 -
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If Mittani the Great was sincere in his apologies, he would have understood the gravity of his mistake and have apologized when someone questioned his misconduct after the Fanfest.
His nonchalant and rude replies are already solid proof that he had no willingness to apologize.
Only when his chairmanship was threatened and various media coverage brought spotlight to his misconduct, then he decided to write a half-hearted letter of apologies to the community.
Does Mittani the Great thinks we are that dumb to fall for his pathetic attempt to sway the crowd?
He already caused irreparable damage to EVE Online. Keeping him as part of CSM not only tarnish the reputation of CSM and CCP, but sets a horrible horrible precedent for the future fo the game.
Mittani the Great, please do us a favor and resign. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:18:00 -
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Orkasm wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:If Mittani the Great was sincere in his apologies, he would have understood the gravity of his mistake and have apologized when someone questioned his misconduct after the Fanfest.
His nonchalant and rude replies are already solid proof that he had no willingness to apologize.
Only when his chairmanship was threatened and various media coverage brought spotlight to his misconduct, then he decided to write a half-hearted letter of apologies to the community.
Does Mittani the Great thinks we are that dumb to fall for his pathetic attempt to sway the crowd?
He already caused irreparable damage to EVE Online. Keeping him as part of CSM not only tarnish the reputation of CSM and CCP, but sets a horrible horrible precedent for the future fo the game.
Mittani the Great, please do us a favor and resign. Do us all a favour and stop posting.
Human with some moral decency disagrees with you. If you support Mittani, it pretty much explains that you also support encouraging people with suicidal tendency to commit suicide. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:27:00 -
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Freya Dimaloun wrote:Wow the internet is not magical faerie land of happiness and gumdrops. eve is ruthless and speech should not be censored in any way. and why the **** would you say your gunna commit suicide to someone you don't know all that well? to me it seems like this guy was not being serious. i don't know all the facts but if i was scamming someone and they said they were going to i probably would be like whatever have fun.
You are absolutely right. We don't care if people scam. It was COMPLETELY OK for Mittani to harras that unfortunate miner ingame. What became a big problem is that he, in front of thousands of audiences (both live and stream attendees), exhibited the best of EVE Online behavior by knowingly encouraging thousands of others to provoke a person with known suicidal tendency, to actually commit suicide.
By keeping Mittani as CSM, we are basically telling the world that it is completely ok to harras and drive others to commit suicide, and that CCP COMPLETELY SUPPORTS it! |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:34:00 -
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Fenrir Cesaille wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Freya Dimaloun wrote:Wow the internet is not magical faerie land of happiness and gumdrops. eve is ruthless and speech should not be censored in any way. and why the **** would you say your gunna commit suicide to someone you don't know all that well? to me it seems like this guy was not being serious. i don't know all the facts but if i was scamming someone and they said they were going to i probably would be like whatever have fun. You are absolutely right. We don't care if people scam. It was COMPLETELY OK for Mittani to harras that unfortunate miner ingame. What became a big problem is that he, in front of thousands of audiences (both live and stream attendees), exhibited the best of EVE Online behavior by knowingly encouraging thousands of others to provoke a person with known suicidal tendency, to actually commit suicide. By keeping Mittani as CSM, we are basically telling the world that it is completely ok to harras and drive others to commit suicide, and that CCP COMPLETELY SUPPORTS it! uhh thats shooting pretty far...how about i dress up in womans clothes and post it on the forums. would it then be wrong to ridicule me? no because im putting it out there. that guy put his feelings out there so there free game free game.
Umm...... no. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:55:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote: All credit to mittens for making a sincere effort to address his foolish behaviour, which was not needed according to his acolyte Ladie Harlot.
Boy, I bet ladie harlot feels foolish right now.
Yes he finally decided to issue an apology, ONLY AFTER his precious CSM Chairmanship was threatened and various news media coverage brought a NEGATIVE spotlight on EVE Online.
In earlier postings, Mittani the Great even tried to lie by telling others that he never said anything about encouraging suicide.
He is pathetic and CCP allowing him to hold the CSM office only shows that CCP also endorces cyber-bullying and encourage players to proactively drive people with suicidal tendencies to commit suicide. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:56:00 -
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YUMAD BRO wrote:OMFG PPL STFU....
It was a Mittens alt and you all have been TROLLED.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NUBS.
Are you just telling us that you are STUPID? If it was Mittani the Great's alt and the whole thing was a play, then he is in a worse position than right now, to lead CSM. Sometimes, I don't understand you and several others' logic. Seriously. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 10:39:00 -
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Morphisat wrote:Why does it take forever for CCP to respond ?
I believe CCP is attuning all its focus in resolving this issue.
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Misunderstood Genius wrote:The question is: is his apol-lol-gize honest or just by fear to get perma-banned?
Most likely he acted in response to the unanticipated wide public outcry and the spot lights thrown at his misconduct by various news media.
These are the responses from Mittani the Great prior to this debacle and public outcry:
"You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything."
"~10,058~"
He even lies to all of us by telling us that he never incited the players to send mails to provoke him to commit suicide when there is a video that clearly shows that he is delusional and a liar: "Also, I didn't suggest that people evemail the guy. I suggested that they run locator agents on him and blow up his Mackinaws - which is exactly what locators are for. "
Him justifying his misconduct by telling all of us that what he did abides by the spirit of EVE Online: "Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself."
Since the beginning, he has seen now wrong in him inciting thousands of EVE players to provoke an unfortunate guy to commit suicide. He willingly, knowingly, and deliberately showed misconduct because he sincerely believes that there is nothing wrong with doing so. His responses explain his thoughts.
Do not fall for his "apologies." He only wrote this AFTER he got stream of news media covering his misconducts. He was scared of losing the chairmanship. |

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Elena Melkan wrote:Care to clarify what is so wrong in this comment? I find it a good thing that someone points out how cowardly it is to lurk behind an anonymous name while giving opinions. If your cause matters to you, why not comment on your main character?
Such nonchalant statement makes it clear that Mittani the Great has never taken the issue seriously and that just because he received the most votes (yes, approximately 3% of the active EVE Online accounts), he is letting the players know that he is the sole moral authority in EVE Online.
There is NOTHING WRONG with posting "behind an alt." Just like Mittani the Great, I am an active subscriber of this beloved game. And besides, it would be extremely foolish for me to reveal my identity. Mittani the Great is morally corrupt and contemptible, but there is no dispute that he is also the most powerful player in EVE Online. I won't risk revealing myself until Mittani the Great is dismissed from the CSM.
My identity is the least of anyone's concern. You should contemplate about the irreparable damage that Mittani the Great has caused during the last several days. |

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Kallynda Nai wrote:Plaude Pollard wrote:Celinei X'Mora wrote:The Mittani shouldn't resign. The reasons are easy explain
This is what we wanted. It's all our fault, the whole community, CCPs included. We knew what kind of morons Goons were and we elected the King of Morons to lead. No reason to feel betrayed, surprised, or shocked. I honestly expected a lot more of this type of thing, I'm just impressed it took a year to get here.
CCP has always made it clear that this type of behavior is acceptable (griefing, cyberbullying, scamming etc) but for some reason, everyone believes its unacceptable in this case because someone has STATED they are suicidal and emotionally unstable. The fact that someone could be emotionally unstable without it being announced is apparently not possible and is therefore allowed within the rules
The point is, we, as a community, have gotten what we asked for, and we share equally in the responsibility. So don't throw The Mittani under the bus because he is acting like he has always acted. Again, he is what we strive to be everyday in Eve, if that were not so, how is it he is our top representative in the CSM
So, sadly, we have to look on this situation and cheer. Again we make headlines. We have made them in a way of our own choosing
Congratulations to the community and to CCP. Keep up the good work. The only ones who're to blame are the people who voted for The Mittani. Thus, I'm not to blame for any of the stupid things he said at the Fanfest. Why would I be to blame for a griefer's stupid remarks at a gaming-event, when I didn't ever want him in charge of anything and actually voted for someone I believe might be competent? Seriously, if you don't think The Mittani is competent, you haven't been paying attention for the past year.
Yes and he has undone all his hard work, singlehandedly, by bringing negative publicity to EVE Online from various reputable news media channels.
He has done more harm than good. It is time for him to go.
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:59:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote:papamike wrote:When I heard the Eve-Radio debate I thought "Hey, you know what, this Mittiani guy actually comes across as quite an intuitive well spoken and thoughtful guy. Clearly his persona is just that- a 'goon' persona. He has a sound knowledge of Eve, and seems like he has his finger on the collective community pulse. Not a bad candidate for CSM. Not a bad candidate at all"
THEN I hear about this whole shitstorm from fanfest. Inciting another player to commit suicide? Surely not the same guy, right?
Well, after reviewing the footage I think that on the one hand the 'PC' crowd has jumped on the 'I hate Mittens" bandwagon. The actual snippet of him 'inciting' the guy to kill himself seems more like a slip of the tounge from a drunk, young idiot and that in lies the problem.
The Mittiani that I saw on that footage is indeed nothing more then a drunken idiot- drunk not only on alcohol (what is it with Eve players and this need to express how drunk they are. Good for you. Why the need to play up the fact youre drunk. Pretty ******* immature boys) but also drunk on some sort of interweb spaceship nerd fame.
And thats the real kick in the proverbials folks. What I saw was a small boy, not capable of handling his drink. The need to showboat his drinking and his idiotic friends jeering him on didnt exactly project a reasonable, mature person to me. Ive had a few beers while playing eve in my time, as im sure alot of people have, but one has to wonder. What the hell was this idiot thinking.
He lost alot of respect from the community by his conduct, remarks about suicide aside. As much as it pains me, he should step down, even though sober he probably would be a good CSM chair. Acting the way he did showed he is actually just a wanker.
Thumbs down Mittens, even though you will probably never read this. Mittens is grown man in his 20's and he's a lawyer (or paralegal or whatever). He should know better. There is no excuse.
Judging by the recent action, it seems like he is just a paralegal. What a shame.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:02:00 -
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Mittani the Great resigned! |

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RougeOperator wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Mittani the Great resigned! Thats a funny way of saying stripped of his position by CCP.
But Mittani the Great said he resigned after admitting his guilt. Surely, he is a man of his words? |
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